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	<title>Comments for Hard Baked Dirt Living</title>
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		<title>Comment on Hyper-charismatapagania by Mark Bainter</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/hyper-charismatapagania/#comment-1185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bainter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kim Riddlebarger has one of the best points on this that I&#039;ve heard.  When Christ and the apostles were performing these signs and wonders, they did it in the presence of God&#039;s enemies, where they could openly refute it if possible, and they were silenced.

You won&#039;t see men like Benny Hinn do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kim Riddlebarger has one of the best points on this that I&#8217;ve heard.  When Christ and the apostles were performing these signs and wonders, they did it in the presence of God&#8217;s enemies, where they could openly refute it if possible, and they were silenced.</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t see men like Benny Hinn do that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Clarity of the Heart in Relationship &#8211; Part II by Carlyn</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/clarity-of-the-heart-in-relationship-part-ii/#comment-1178</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Pastor Eddie, your preaching is a Big help to under standing the bible. Thanks so muck!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Anatomy of the Imaginary Other PERSON by James</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/the-anatomy-of-the-imaginary-other-person/#comment-1172</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there,

This is not about this blog posting, but about a comment you made on Pyromaniacs blog article about Rob bell entitled &quot;Performance Artist&quot;.

I appreciated how you talked about showing people Bell&#039;s message before revealing who he is.  I was wondering if you still had copies of the stuff you printed off for them, and if it had references, that would be even better.  I just haven&#039;t been able to take the time to compile his false teachings, and don&#039;t really have a great desire to wade through it because it is false and I would rather study truth.  You have done something I probably won&#039;t be able to do, but would benefit from.

I would be very grateful to get a copy because I have encountered some similar situations where people think he&#039;s got amazing things to say and I do not have very much of his false teaching on hand to point out to them.

Thanks so much,

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,</p>
<p>This is not about this blog posting, but about a comment you made on Pyromaniacs blog article about Rob bell entitled &#8220;Performance Artist&#8221;.</p>
<p>I appreciated how you talked about showing people Bell&#8217;s message before revealing who he is.  I was wondering if you still had copies of the stuff you printed off for them, and if it had references, that would be even better.  I just haven&#8217;t been able to take the time to compile his false teachings, and don&#8217;t really have a great desire to wade through it because it is false and I would rather study truth.  You have done something I probably won&#8217;t be able to do, but would benefit from.</p>
<p>I would be very grateful to get a copy because I have encountered some similar situations where people think he&#8217;s got amazing things to say and I do not have very much of his false teaching on hand to point out to them.</p>
<p>Thanks so much,</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deconstructing Christian Cliche &#8211; Part I by Mason</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/442/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor: I just came across your blog and have been enjoying the series on &quot;cliches.&quot; I particularly enjoy the one on judging. I agree with you 100%, &quot;the command is a call to self-examination.

I&#039;ve never understood why Christians have such a hard time with this passage. Ayn Rand the atheist philosopher and author understood full well what the passage means. In one of her books, (I don&#039;t remember which) she stated, &quot;Judge and be prepared to be judged by the same criteria.&quot; 

Good posts. Thanks; Mason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor: I just came across your blog and have been enjoying the series on &#8220;cliches.&#8221; I particularly enjoy the one on judging. I agree with you 100%, &#8220;the command is a call to self-examination.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never understood why Christians have such a hard time with this passage. Ayn Rand the atheist philosopher and author understood full well what the passage means. In one of her books, (I don&#8217;t remember which) she stated, &#8220;Judge and be prepared to be judged by the same criteria.&#8221; </p>
<p>Good posts. Thanks; Mason</p>
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		<title>Comment on Proving the Absurdity of the Absurd by Following the Logic Trail by sandrar</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/proving-the-absurdity-of-the-absurd-by-following-the-logic-trail/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>sandrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post&#8230; nice! I love your blog.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Cheers! Sandra. R.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Destructive Doctrine of Distinctives by ostrakinos</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/the-destructive-doctrine-of-distinctives/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>ostrakinos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, where in the Scriptures does God give the role of pastor to the father of the home? Where does the Scripture call our homes mini-churches? I understand that in principle the role of spiritual oversight overlaps - ie- a father is an overseer, a father should lead his family in prayer and song, etc. as a believer and head, but the role of pastor is a God-given role for the structure of the church Body.  
Some men are simply not qualified to teach their families. Many men have little to no discernment, should they be the &#039;pastors&#039; of their homes?  I don&#039;t pit the family vs. the church but Scripture does certainly say that our true family is the family of God not our blood family.  
So, in that sense, no the family is not more important than the Body since the Body IS our family.  Again, it depends on how one means this and in what degree etc., but I hope you understand what I mean.  

The elders are responsible for the training up of fathers to oversee their families but when the father thinks that he is now a pastor himself where  does that leave the church? Surely each father being a &#039;pastor&#039; leads to confusion in some respect as again not every man by virtue of his progeny is qualified. I had families at my church, for example, who refused to come to Sunday school because it was the job of the fathers to teach their own children. This undermines the authority and structure of God&#039;s given means of godly education - the church. Again, it is the refusal that is the problem.

Hopefully this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, where in the Scriptures does God give the role of pastor to the father of the home? Where does the Scripture call our homes mini-churches? I understand that in principle the role of spiritual oversight overlaps &#8211; ie- a father is an overseer, a father should lead his family in prayer and song, etc. as a believer and head, but the role of pastor is a God-given role for the structure of the church Body.<br />
Some men are simply not qualified to teach their families. Many men have little to no discernment, should they be the &#8216;pastors&#8217; of their homes?  I don&#8217;t pit the family vs. the church but Scripture does certainly say that our true family is the family of God not our blood family.<br />
So, in that sense, no the family is not more important than the Body since the Body IS our family.  Again, it depends on how one means this and in what degree etc., but I hope you understand what I mean.  </p>
<p>The elders are responsible for the training up of fathers to oversee their families but when the father thinks that he is now a pastor himself where  does that leave the church? Surely each father being a &#8216;pastor&#8217; leads to confusion in some respect as again not every man by virtue of his progeny is qualified. I had families at my church, for example, who refused to come to Sunday school because it was the job of the fathers to teach their own children. This undermines the authority and structure of God&#8217;s given means of godly education &#8211; the church. Again, it is the refusal that is the problem.</p>
<p>Hopefully this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deconstructing Christian Cliche &#8211; Part I by ostrakinos</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/442/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator>ostrakinos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard, that is a change of topic the exhortation dealing w/ judging is v. 1-5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard, that is a change of topic the exhortation dealing w/ judging is v. 1-5</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deconstructing Christian Cliche &#8211; Part I by Howard</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/442/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really ironic that you posted this. Just today, my family and I went through that exact passage for our family Sunday study. So I have a question, does Matthew 7:6 fit with this? Or is it separate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really ironic that you posted this. Just today, my family and I went through that exact passage for our family Sunday study. So I have a question, does Matthew 7:6 fit with this? Or is it separate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Destructive Doctrine of Distinctives by Karen</title>
		<link>http://ostrakinos.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/the-destructive-doctrine-of-distinctives/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting, and I am intrigued by your viewpoint since you have been on the inside of this issue. I get what you are saying, that some can take it too far...and there should be conversations between the elders and the parents...however. 

I always believed that the father is the pastor of the home, and family. That our homes should be mini-churches, and worship should not only take place just within the walls of a Church. Is that not Biblical? Shouldn&#039;t the family be more important than the body? I mean, shouldn&#039;t we put each other first, then the church? I think I am confused. Is it God, Church [elders], Father, Mother, Children?  Should we put our church before our family? I am not sure what you are saying about that. 

I do not believe that each family should be it&#039;s own separate entity when they are together for worship, that when they are together they should be one big family with the Pastor as &quot;father&quot;, Titus 2 discipleship, etc. but at home, should they not each be their own small church in and of themselves? 

Considering the way most families are today, should we not stress that fathers are responsible for the training, evangelizing and discipleship of their families, and that it is not solely the responsibility of the church, and pastor. [Deut. 6:4-9; Eph. 6:4; Eph. 5:25-27] Shouldn&#039;t the church be equipping fathers to do just that? 

Naturally we should never forsake the gathering together of believers, but it is not possible to meet every day as they did in Acts 2. What we learn at church should be able to be carried over into our every day worship and discipleship of our families. 

Thanks, 
Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting, and I am intrigued by your viewpoint since you have been on the inside of this issue. I get what you are saying, that some can take it too far&#8230;and there should be conversations between the elders and the parents&#8230;however. </p>
<p>I always believed that the father is the pastor of the home, and family. That our homes should be mini-churches, and worship should not only take place just within the walls of a Church. Is that not Biblical? Shouldn&#8217;t the family be more important than the body? I mean, shouldn&#8217;t we put each other first, then the church? I think I am confused. Is it God, Church [elders], Father, Mother, Children?  Should we put our church before our family? I am not sure what you are saying about that. </p>
<p>I do not believe that each family should be it&#8217;s own separate entity when they are together for worship, that when they are together they should be one big family with the Pastor as &#8220;father&#8221;, Titus 2 discipleship, etc. but at home, should they not each be their own small church in and of themselves? </p>
<p>Considering the way most families are today, should we not stress that fathers are responsible for the training, evangelizing and discipleship of their families, and that it is not solely the responsibility of the church, and pastor. [Deut. 6:4-9; Eph. 6:4; Eph. 5:25-27] Shouldn&#8217;t the church be equipping fathers to do just that? </p>
<p>Naturally we should never forsake the gathering together of believers, but it is not possible to meet every day as they did in Acts 2. What we learn at church should be able to be carried over into our every day worship and discipleship of our families. </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Karen</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Testament to Life by sandraraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandraraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post&#8230; nice! I love your blog.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Cheers! Sandra. R.</p>
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